Stacy McCain rips most entertainingly into Amanda Marcotte over her anti-endorsement of Santorum. There’s no doubt whatever that Our Amynda is a piece of work with a number of fairly frantic bees in her bonnet, but it’s worth asking how she got that way. Rightists often ask, with visible wonder, how people like Marcotte and Margaret Atwood come up with their extreme and often hysterical views of the Right, and I consider myself a Rightist (of sorts) but totally understand where they’re coming from.
There is a vast chasm of a gap between opposed to abortion and wanting a Law against abortion. The first is both moral and practical. Moral issues are canvassed elsewhere much better than I can manage, but the practical remains stark: You are gonna die someday. The future belongs to those who show up for it, and if you don’t have children you have no future. The second — aaah. The second is what generates Marcottes.
Postulate a Law against abortion. What would have to be done? Well, would the simple existence of a Law stop babies being killed? Of course not. The Law would have to be enforced. There would still be doctors, nurse practitioners, med students, a host of other medical practitioners, and a good-sized number of wannabees providing the service on the sly, and you have to have a way to detect them and put them out of business. The information about how to do it is public on the Internet and elsewhere, and you have to find a way to suppress that. It’s perfectly possible, although damned dangerous, for a woman to do it to herself, perhaps with a sympathetic friend to help, and a method must be found to keep that from happening.
Parsing the Whys and Wherefores, we circle around and come to a conclusion: the only way to stop abortion using a Law is to establish a massive, powerful, expensive, and highly intrusive police force, charged with finding out whether any woman is pregnant and preventing her from getting an abortion. Any lesser means will still allow leakers, and experience tells us that any system that allows leaks will eventually allow a flood. Behind all of Marcotte’s sneers and vulgarisms, it is that police force that she opposes; The Handmaid’s Tale describes one alternate version of such a police force, and not the worst version possible by any means. Atwood, too, is opposed to the establishment of such a force — and so am I.
If you want to establish a massive, powerful, expensive, and highly intrusive police force, I am your opponent — and I don’t give the slightest whisper of the faintest possible hint of a damn what you want it for. It’s a source of power, and by Rule #3 becomes an attractant for power-seekers who, once ensconced in it, will seek to expand its power without limit regardless of its original function or the reasons for establishing it. Nor do I give the slightest whisper of the faintest possible hint of a damn about your bitching about, e.g., the EPA, which is a marvelous example of a police force seized by extremists and power-seekers who use it for ends its founders never intended. In all the history of the World, there has never, ever, ever been a case in which such a police force didn’t get seized by extremists and power-seekers, and if you want to set up Yet Another Example of a proto-Gestapo (which is what all such are, your excuses about Saving the Children being totally irrelevant), I’m agin it.
I vote for, and generally support, the Right over the Left, and I consider Amanda Marcotte and her ilk to be generally wrong and distastefully nasty in expressing themselves, but I also see, at least in many cases, where the fears that led to their nastiness originate — and they are often, as in this instance, perfectly logical and rational. I don’t like them worth a damn, but if push came to shove I’d be bound to join their camp over the underlying issues. The fact that they have issues requiring the establishment of massive, powerful, expensive, and intrusive police forces for their own ends just makes it into a matter of selecting the lesser of two evils, and as a general rule the Left at least tends to be honest about it, to the point of delighting in what their goon-gangs will do to opponents if allowed. It’s unattractive as all Hell, but the obliviousness displayed by many “socon” rightists is even more distasteful. If you’re going to rant that consequences be damned if you can save one child you make my trigger finger itch in exactly the same way the Leftists do, because the only difference between you and them is some technical terminology. I have to ally with you because the other causes you support are more in line with my thinking, but it doesn’t mean I despise you any less than I do any other supporter of intrusive meddlers with guns.
All of which is one of the main reasons Left and Right have gotten to be, and stay, neck-and-neck in politics. Independents, whose votes are crucial in any election, tend strongly to have (usually incoherent versions of) the same attitude — there are already plenty of goon squads euphemized as “police forces” out there, and establishing another one is not to be favored. The fact that socons tend to gloss over, or seem oblivious to, the difference between wanting some outcome and establishing a goon squad to achieve an outcome makes them equally, if not more, unattractive to people whose actual wish is to be left the f* alone. It was opposition to such measures that led to “smelly hippies” getting their hands on the levers of power in the first place, and that’s going to keep happening. Examine your Issue. If it means establishing a massive, powerful, expensive, and intrusive police force in order to accomplish it, I’ll vote for the Other Guy — and I know damned well I’m not alone in that.

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25 December 2011 at 11:54 am
cranky-d
I think another good example of a police force run amuck is drug enforcement. They started out as the police force to enforce prohibition, and when that was repealed, the police force didn’t go away. It found a new mission.
25 December 2011 at 12:13 pm
Ric Locke
Not really, cranky-d; you’re collapsing some history.
Drug laws predate the “temperance movement” and were in some ways the inspiration for it. They are and have always been explicitly racist. The first ones, against opium, were aimed at Chinese immigrants, and I’m old enough to remember parents and neighbors discussing with satisfaction how marijuana prohibition enabled the police to crack down on the “juke joints”.
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29 December 2011 at 3:55 pm
BikerDad
ahh, the blogger speaks, channelling his inner extremist idiot.
The problem with your scenario is… not all laws are equal, and your abortion example illustrates it perfectly.
Before Roe v Wade, abortion WAS illegal in most (all?) states. Was there a “massive, powerful, expensive and highly intrusive police force” (MPEAHIFP) dedicated to stamping out abortion?
NO. Just like there’s not now, nor ever has been, a MPEAHIFP dedicated to stamping out jaywalking, even though JAYWALKING IS ALREADY ILLEGAL! Ohhhh nooooooo, Mr. Bill!! We better repeal/overturn the laws against jaywalking, otherwise the MPEAHIFP will make our lives a living hell, stopping us as we walk hither and thither.
The sort of argument that Ric is making is on par with Reefer Madness, and as worthy of mocking. It is an argument that flows seamlessly in to “there should be no laws, because with laws come police. In all the history of the World, there has never, ever, ever been a case in which such a police force didn’t get seized by extremists and power-seekers.”
5 January 2012 at 11:55 pm
Robert White
I would suggest throttling down a bit. The point that I feel is being made is that once you have a law in place against something, the temptation is there to use it. And since minimum mandatory sentencing is in vogue now you usually end up doing significant time.
As far as the whole abortion thing: no there wasn’t a massive crackdown. But you also didn’t have a 24 hour news cycle, you didn’t have politicians needing sound bites and photo ops constantly. To presume that no one will get arrested for getting an illegal abortion, is playing a game particularly if a District Attorney is in an election cycle.
6 January 2012 at 12:04 am
Robert White
As an.example: we have a D.A. in Nassau County who loves the camera, gets herself in front of it no matter what. Give her a law outlawing anything, brown shoes for example. I would bet my next check that she would have everyone with brow shoes rolled up, perp walking in time for the 6 o’clock news, using that headline to prove how tough she is on people with brown shoes.
Beware what laws you get on the books, hoping there are too many offenders for law enforcement to lock up. All it takes is one politician to decide we need a “war” on something to change that dynamic.
One other thing: cops don’t make the laws, they simply follow the directives of those above them who in turn get there orders from the elected official.
30 January 2012 at 1:08 pm
Danger
Ric,
I guess I’d be happier if abortions were undesirable, and unfunded (by force of the government’s taxing authority), rather than unlawful.
Of course; having a President that doesn’t belive a baby could be a form of punishment, would be a prerequisite.
Life is to be celebrated and cherished NOT merely tolerated!